To Gary Elloitt,
Following our conversation on 11th June 2007, I am writing this letter as a formal complaint about the mis-selling of your product “Your Group”. Ofcom have advised me that this is the next step I should take.
2 months ago, my wife and I were wondering how to reduce our mobile phone bills. So I phoned 150 from my Orange mobile and talked to a Customer Services Representative about the idea of both me and my wife using a single tariff. I was told that the “Your Group” service would allow us to do that, but that we would both need to be on Orange Animal tariffs.
On May 4th 2007, we went into an Orange Shop in Manchester to find a phone which my wife would be able to upgrade to. We explained to the Customer Advisor about how we wanted me to go onto my wife’s tariff and he confirmed that we could do so. My wife didn’t upgrade in store since they didn’t have any phones which she liked.
My wife phoned 150 to upgrade her phone and tariff a couple of days later, only because she believed that once we both had Animal tariffs, I would be able to be added to her tariff.
2 weeks before I upgraded my phone and tariff, I again called 150 to find out the date on which I was entitled to upgrade to an Animal plan. During this conversation I wanted to confirm that I would be able to go onto my wife’s account using the “Your Group” service, and was told that I could, all I needed was an Animal tariff.
I called 150 again 3 days before I upgraded to see if I could upgrade early and found that I couldn’t, but again I enquired about whether I could go onto my wife’s account using “Your Group” as soon as I upgraded, and I was told I could.
So on the 22nd May I upgraded my phone and tariff. In the negotiations about upgrading my account, I explained that I wanted to upgrade to the £25 Dolphin tariff because I wanted to move onto my wife’s tariff once I had been upgraded. I chose the cheapest tariff because I thought I would only pay it for the first month, then, once I joined my wife’s “Your Group”, I would share her tariff.
Earlier this afternoon, my wife and I phoned the “Your Group” Team so that I could be moved onto my wife’s group, and then share her tariff. We were shocked to find that this is not what “Your Group” allows, it simply allows people in a group to call each other for free, and moves my phone number and tariff into my wife’s Orange account – meaning that both her tariff and my tariff would now all be charged to my wife.
I believe I have been mis-sold your “Your Group” service. I am upset and angry because we only agreed to our new phones and 18 month contracts because we believed we would be able to share a tariff only when we had upgraded to a new Animal tariff. Had we known that we could not share a tariff, we would have cancelled our Orange accounts and gone with another mobile service provider who did offer this, or something like it.
In our conversation today, we agreed that both my wife and I had agreed to these 18 month contracts. You made the point that when we agreed, the price of the tariffs and the minutes and texts with them were explained to us, so since I had agreed to pay £25 per month for my mobile service, there is no compulsion for you to let me out of the contract or to change it.
It was also explained that you cannot let me share my wife’s contract because you do not offer the service and you do not have the technology to do that. I conceded this point and suggested that you could compensate my wife and I by letting one of us not pay for our tariff, since this is the product your staff told me I was entitled to. You said you would not do this, and instead told me what a good deal the tariffs we are now bound to are. I had asked the lady I talked to before our conversation whether Orange could cancel our accounts without charging us any fees as compensation, but she also said that you would not do this since we had agreed to the terms and conditions of the contracts.
My issue is the ethical problem that Orange mis-sold me a service which you could not and do not offer. My wife and I were deceived into believing that if we upgraded to new Animal plans, we would be able to share a tariff.
As a representative for Orange, you were not willing to admit that we had been deceived and were not willing to take responsibility for that, or to compensate us for the deception. You offered to lower my wife’s tariff as a gesture of good will. This does not compensate us for the fact that we are now in 18 month contracts which we would not have agreed to if we had not been told that we could share a tariff through “Your Group”.
Please let us know what other forms of compensation you will offer us for the fact that we were deceived into being bound by new 18 month contracts.
Yours Faithfully,
Ben Gibbs